Meeting Minutes


HAMMOCK BEACH ESTATES HOME OWNER’S ASSOCIATION, INC.

P.O. Box 350668

Palm Coast. FL 32135

www.hbehoa.com

 

Wednesday, October 3, 2007, Beginning at 3 P.M.

Hammock Community Center, Malacompra Road

 

The board meeting commenced at 3 PM.  The following Board Members were present:  President, Paul Zacharias, Vice President, Debbie Clark,  Secretary, Peggy Steele and Treasurer, Fred Black.  The following members, all invited by an e mail message, by notice enclosed with the minutes, and by posting on the community bulletin board, were present:  Jean Mattson, Alicia Anderson, Bob Rohr, Larry Amuso, Harold Clarke, and Gary Fairley.

Before calling the meeting to order Paul called upon those present to voice any concerns or to have any item placed on the agenda.              *Bob Rohr asked about the unsatisfactory condition of the roads, as it was brought up at the last meeting and it is not on the agenda for this meeting.  Paul said he will add this concern to the agenda.  Bob also asked about the status of the easement on the dry pond.  Paul said it is on the agenda under item 8.              Paul then called the meeting to order.

 

1.            Agenda:   Paul added as item 13 a discussion of the ownership and condition of the roads. With no other items to be placed on the agenda, the agenda was adopted.

 

2.            Approval of minutes:  Paul asked Peggy if there were any changes to the minutes from the August 2 meeting and the special meeting of September 5. Peggy said she had received no changes so the minutes from both meetings were adopted.  The minutes were approved as written.

 

3.         Status of settlement of litigation: (Joyce vs. Weiss)  Paul said that we have received from the courts the order of dismissal that has been agreed upon by all parties involved. The document was dated Sept 13, 2007.  Paul will post the court-approved request for dismissal on the website under “current legal action”. 

 

4.            Architectural review:   Paul said that he has received two requests for approval by the Board of Directors.  One is for a swimming pool to be built in the back of Joyce’s on Ocean Dune Circle and the other is for a covered extension of the deck on the second floor level of Kissinger, 9 Ocean Dune Circle.  Bill Jamison, a member of ARAC reviewed both requests and recommends approval.  After board members reviewed the plans for both Joyce and Kissinger the board voted to approve both requests.  Paul will notify both parties of the approvals. 

 

5.              Review of updated bids for pool area fencing:   Paul asked Alicia (spokesperson for the pool area committee) if she had any other proposals that the Board could review at this meeting in addition to the Thompson updated quote that she had provided by email. Alicia said “not today”.  Thompson fencing quoted $6217 for fencing, including everything (both gates the same, keys, locks, etc, tax included). If the gate on the west side of the pool was chain link to match the fence on that side, the cost would be about $5400.  After discussing the gates it was decided to try to go with the gate to match the one which will be on the south side, therefore keeping the same locks, keys, etc.  Fred said that we are required to have 3 bids.  Alicia said that she has gotten 3 bids and has weeded it down to Thompson Fence Co. who supplies fencing materials to other companies.  Bob Rohr asked why we needed a gate on the west side.  Paul said that people use that gate to go to the restroom and use the stepping stones, and grass will not be tracked back into the pool.   Alicia said that other fence companies have commented that Thompson Fence does very good work and are highly recommended.

 

Paul said that as we discuss the budget for 2008, we will consider the options for the fence around the pool and make a decision as to whether to vote on the pool fence or wait for additional information from another bidder.  {Note:  As stated in item 6 below, the Board  later voted to accept the bid from Thompson’s and proceed with the fence replacement this year.} 

 

Paul asked if there were any other items to be considered for the pool area while the budget is being developed for next year.   Alicia said that other options for seating around the area has been discussed but the committee is not ready to submit any proposals.

 

Peggy asked Harold about the rope marking the parking area that was taken down.  Harold said that it was not the rope that would be used and they are waiting for the posts to dry out so that they can be painted.  Then the rope will be added. .

 

6.            Treasurer’s report:  Fred asked that we go on with the items on the budget and work on the proposed 2008 budget last.  With no objection from the Board, Paul agreed.

 

7.            Operations:  Joe Bowen, director for operations was absent.  Paul said that the notice for pool inspection had been received and no mention of the condition of the fencing was stated.  Only comment was that the water level was too high.  (There had been heavy showers previous to the inspection).

 

8.         Status of Actions on Canal Drainage concerns on Lots 70 & 71.  Paul said that at the HCCC meeting which was Oct. 2, 2007, there was a discussion about the drainage canal (N&S canal) that runs from Marineland Acres, through Sea Colony and Hammock Beach Estates to the canal that leads to the intracoastal along Malacompra Road. The County Commissioners recently had a workshop discussing the relationship of the canal with drainage issues in Marineland Acres.  Marineland Acres has different drainage issues than we do because it has dirt roads and no retention ponds. The N - S canal through our subdivision is a secondary drainage system because we have retention ponds.  Paul said that the County seems willing to take a look at the issues. There will be a committee formed within the HCCC  to work with the county in an attempt to try to help guide the county as to how to solve the drainage problems. The N-S Canal is the one thing we all have in common as the whole length of the canal is involved.  Paul noted  that Hammock Dunes is involved also, as their drainage system also flows into the canal along Malacompra.  Paul said he has volunteered to be part of the committee until the end of the year representing the Board.  Frank Carelli has volunteered and Debbie Clark also volunteered to work on the committee.  Peggy said that Olivets were very concerned as the canal runs through their property .  They are not part of HBE, so we will let her know about the committee. 

 

On the lots 70 and 71 issue, Paul said he is not aware of any new developments regarding the lot owners’ efforts to remove the conservation easement from these lots.

 

As for the dry pond located on the back of lots 88 and 89:  The Rosenbaums, who own lots 88 and 89, are paying for our attorney to work with their attorney to determine if the association’s ownership of the dry pond can be converted to an easement so that the lots would be considered large enough for houses to be built on them.  Paul read a letter that our attorney sent to Allan Baggett of St. Johns Water Management, which issued the permit for the dry pond, asking whether SJWM would permit us to transfer ownership and certain maintenance responsibilities to a private property in favor of an easement.     Paul said that we are responsible for maintenance of the dry pond but we have done very little to maintain that area.  While the pond area may be functional as a water collection area, the lawn people are unable to get to the area with the mowers and the area is overgrown.  If we want to make this an acceptable looking retention pond (similar to the one on the south side of Armand Beach drive behind the commercial building on A1A) there would be significant work to clear roots and growth before grass could be put down.  Standards need to be set whether we decide to transfer or keep that area.  Bob Rohr and Harold Clarke emphasized that we have an asset and that we should not give it away for nothing, particularly since the developer should have done a better job clearing and grassing the pond before turning it over to the association.  Paul said that the association accepted the pond, which met SJWM criteria.  If it is determined that an ownership transfer can be done, we will have to look at what’s in the best interest of the association as we consider the terms.  The membership will be informed and their input will be considered before any decisions are made.  Fred said that he believes the C&Rs would require a membership vote.  Paul said that he believes the C&Rs only require a vote by the Board.  This issue will also be researched.   Fred said that we are in the collecting of information phase.  When we have information enough, then decisions will be made as to what is fair if the transfer is made.

 

9.  Required:  Approval of Nomination and Election Procedures:  Peggy said that there are 4 volunteers as candidates for the upcoming election.  There is one opening to replace Debbie Clark who is resigning at the end of this year.  Larry Amuso has volunteered to run for this one year opening.  The other three openings are for two year terms.  Larry Anderson, Michele Austin and Sara Clarke have volunteered.  This is an open nomination process, so even though there are 4 volunteers, nominations are still open until the next board meeting on November 8, for anyone else to come forward to serve on the Board of Directors.  Paul noted that none of the current  nominees are from Ocean Dune Circle and asked Gary Fairley if there might be any one on Ocean Dune Circle who he thinks might consider serving on the Board.  Gary said that he was not sure but he hoped that even if no Ocean Dune Circle residents are on the Board, that our association would have a process whereby their concerns regarding issues that only affect Ocean Dune residents will be brought to the attention of the Hammock Beach Association before any decisions are made.  Paul said this will be discussed in the next agenda item. 

 

Paul asked Peggy to read the election procedures for approval.  Peggy said that for an election, there are no proxy votes, only absentee ballots or voting in person at the meeting.  All ballots must be received before the start of the annual meeting at 7:00PM, Dec. 6, 2007. Nominations will officially be closed as of November 8, 2007.  There will be 4 vote counters at the meeting selected from volunteers in attendance.  Two counters will validate the ballot and the other two will count the vote,.  Names will not appear on the ballot, only Lot numbers.  As members check in at the meeting, there will be a roster to check off names in attendance. The roster will also show those absentee ballots that have been received.  In the event that there is only one nominee for each position, a motion can be made and approved by those in attendance to waive the prescribed written voting process and to vote by a show of hands on the entire slate of nominees.  Paul said that State Law (and our C&Rs) require that we allow write-in candidates. Because of this law, ballots have to be sent to all members.  If there is a write in candidate there will have to be a vote.  Peggy will amend the voting procedures to say that “if there are no write-in candidates on absentee ballots and no additional nominees from the floor, then a motion can be made and approved by those in attendance to waive the prescribed written voting process and to vote by show of hands on the entire slate of nominees.”

Peggy passed the procedures to other members of the board to review before an approval.  Approval must be given at this meeting for an election to take place. After members had time to review the procedures, approval was given to adopt the procedures as amended.

 

10. Status of C&R review project:  Paul said that Peggy has recorded at the county office, the recent amendments to the by laws and asked her to work with Joe Sermarini to update the bylaw document as it appears on our website.  Fred said that Bob Hamby, Larry Anderson, Sara Clarke, Frank Carelli, and Bob Rohr have been working on the C&Rs.  Fred has prepared a chart showing the original C&Rs and the proposed changes to each section.  Fred said that the committee proposes that any architectural review matter pertaining to lots 1-29 be forwarded to their Sub Association for their review and recommendations before the HBEHOA Board officially acts on the matter.   That way, there will be no misunderstandings between restrictions applying only to Ocean Dune Circle.  Problems in the future should be eliminated by this procedure.  Fred said that there are more meetings scheduled and he will have more to offer at the November meeting. Paul thanked Fred and his committee for all the effort put into this task.  Paul noted to Gary Fairley, who is an officer in the Armand Beach Association, that his association would likely have to vote to accept the responsibility to be part of the decision making process when C&Rs are amended.

 

11.  Discussion of need to contact members regarding C&R compliance:  Debbie said that she received a complaint a couple of days ago about stucco repair which she will take care of.  She has looked around the neighborhood and saw nothing really outstanding that needs attention.  She said that she sees a lot of rust on buildings on Ocean Dune Circle but by the time a letter is issued and the problem taken care of, there will be rust showing again because of the nearness to ocean.  She does not see this as an issue that needs to be dealt with.  There is a problem at #2 Laurel Drive concerning the condition of the yard  She has been communicating with the absentee owner and they are trying to work out a solution for the yard care   The owner says that he thinks he has a renter who will take care of the yard and Debbie asked for a date when this will happen.  Paul suggested that rentals seem to be the major issue--Debbie said that some absentee owners are the problem, whether the place is rented or not. It appears that some absentee owners are paying for the grass to be cut only--not full service yard care, therefore there is the overgrown appearance and it makes the property look pretty shabby. 

                         

  12. Status: Records Management and website enhancement:  Paul said that he is continuing to keep organizing the files and update as necessary.  The file cabinet will be passed on to the new board president.  He asked that outgoing board members give him any files and records that are in their possession to be put into the file.  Paul said that Joe Sermarini has done some organizing on the website and they are continuing to make easier access to sections appearing on the site. (example:  BOD minutes are now in one section with a button on the home page).

 

13:  Other items added at start of meeting:  Roads:  Paul has researched the history of road ownership and he finds that the roads are county owned.  The developer put up money (fund) that the county is holding for road improvement.  The county can use that money to improve the roads. There is concern about the cracks in the roads throughout HBE. The county will have to be contacted and should send a person over to go through the area and find the spots that need to be repaired.   Road work has to be budgeted yearly, so any major work will need to be budgeted for in the upcoming year.  Fred said that Bob Hamby is working with the county to try to find an answer to who is responsible for road repair. Harold also indicated that Bob has marked areas in need of repair but he did not want to speak for Bob on what has been done. Paul said that we will put all the facts together as we receive them and come to a conclusion as to who is responsible for the roads.

 

The Board then went to Item 6 on the agenda. 

 

6.  Treasurer’s report:  Fred gave members a copy of the original budget that was passed last year.  All lot owners have paid their dues.   With 75% of the year completed, we have spent 65% of the money that was budgeted.  Fred then distributed an Approved Amended Budget, reflecting that at a previous meeting, the Board had approved moving $3200 from the betterment account to deferred maintenance account and put a line item in reserve for deferred maintenance for legal expenses.  The bottom line figures on both hand out sheets are the same.  Paul asked Fred which sheet is the easiest one to work with to develop a budget for 2008.  Alicia Anderson asked about the figures showing on the hand out sheets.  Paul said that the legal expense for the lawsuit was treated as an out of the ordinary expense and that is why the money was moved from betterment to deferred maintenance which is in the reserve account.  Paul asked Fred how much is in the bank now. Fred said we have $2l438.48.  Paul asked if any other board member had any questions.  There being none, the board proceeded to review expected expenditures for the rest of 2007 and then the figures for the proposed 2008 budget.

 

The board then reviewed each budget item, agreeing on a few adjustments.  If no more is spent on betterment or out of reserve money, we will have $13876 to carry over to 2008.  If we spend $6200 on the fence around the pool this year, the reserve to carry over would be $7676.  In the previous year we said that we would prefer to have a target of $10000 to carry over into the next year. Paul asked, after reviewing the budget, if we were ready to vote on the pool fence. After some discussion, the board approved moving the remaining funds in the reserve account for betterments to the reserve account for replacement and then voted to use replacement funds to replace the fence. Board members will meet with Thompson fencing to confirm all the information regarding site preparation etc. before signing a contract.  Thus in 2007, reserves were used to supplement legal fees, replace the pool fence, and improve the pool area as a betterment. 

 

Fred gave board members a handout sheet showing budgets and expenses from 2006 to the proposed budget for 2008.  After working with the figures for all budgeted accounts the board approved the proposed budget, which is included with the minutes. In 2008 reserves will be used to cover major deferred maintenance items and betterment items.  Because of increases in operating expenses and to restore the targeted reserve account end of year balance near $10000, the proposed budget shows a dues increase of $25,  making the annual payment $200.

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The meeting was adjourned at 5:45 PM

The next meeting will be November 8, 2007.at 3pm at Melacompra Road Community Center.  At this meeting the 2008 budget will be approved after consideration of any comments received from the membership.  Also nominations for the 2008 Board will be closed and the ballot finalized. 

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Peggy Steele, Sec. HBEHOA

 

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